In Further Developments over on Sherri Viani Tull’s page with Lois Hamilton

and Lois Hamilton

After she unfriended me they continued to post and tag me in the posts as their conversation spiraled into further BS.. Since I can not respond over there I will do so here.

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First off illegal immigrants are not eligible for medical care under the Affordable Care act except under emergency conditions. Now granted that does mean that in those emergency circumstance, we the people may end up footing the bill if the illegal immigrant does not have the resources to pay. However, let us consider for a moment the ramifications of letting human beings die on in an emergency health care crisis and whether that is how we want to behave in the world?

UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS

No federal coverage.

  • Not allowed to purchase private health insurance at full cost in state insurance exchange(s).
  • Not eligible for premium tax credits or lower copayments.
  • Exempt from individual mandate.
  • Not eligible for Medicare, nonemergency Medicaid, or CHIP.
  • Remain eligible for emergency care under federal law.
  • Eligible for Emergency Medicaid if low-income.
  • Citizen or lawfully present children of undocumented parents are eligible:
    • To purchase from the state insurance exchange.
    • For premium tax credits and lower copayments.
    • For Medicaid or CHIP.
  • May seek nonemergency health services at community health centers or safety-net hospitals.

I am getting my information on this from:

VIETNAMESE REFUGEES

As their conversation continued to go off the rails they turned to Vietnamese Refugees. REFUGEES are not illegal immigrants there is clearly a difference.

REFUGEE – A person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT – a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country’s authorization.

A LITTLE CONTEXT

Vietnamese migration to the United States has occurred in three waves, the first beginning in 1975 at the end of the Vietnam War, when the fall of Saigon led to the U.S.-sponsored evacuation of approximately 125,000 Vietnamese refugees. This first wave consisted mainly of military personnel and urban, educated professionals whose association with the U.S. military or the South Vietnamese government made them targets of the communist forces. In the late 1970s, a second wave of Vietnamese refugees entered the United States in what became known as the “boat people” refugee crisis. This group came from mainly rural areas and was often less educated than earlier arrivals; many were ethnic Chinese immigrants fleeing persecution in Vietnam. The third wave entered the United States throughout the 1980s and 1990s; unlike earlier arrivals, this group contained fewer refugees and included thousands of Vietnamese Amerasians (children of U.S. servicemen and Vietnamese mothers) as well as political prisoners.

DO WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AS A NATION TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MESS WE MADE IN VIETNAM?

Clearly our government thought so, the following link will show you what laws were enacted to assist the refugees of the mess we, yes WE made in Vietnam.

(you will find links from the summaries to the full laws on this site) They will give a clearer understanding what financial investment we made to help these refugees start their lives over.

THE ARROGANCE, THE UTTER IGNORANCE, THE LEVEL OF WHITE PRIVILEGE that spewed forth from these two sad little individuals just wobbles my mind.  Sadly, I do get it and feel pity for them and for our country if this is the road we embarking on.

What say you, counselor?

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